From leighann@sybase.com Fri Nov 6 12:51:04 1998 Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (root@proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.13]) by shell9.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with ESMTP id MAA11119 for; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from inergen.sybase.com (inergen.sybase.com [192.138.151.43]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.in) with ESMTP id MAA08420 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.sybase.com (sybgate.sybase.com [130.214.220.35]) by inergen.sybase.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA04769 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from taliesin.sybase.com by smtp1.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.5-030896) id AA12919; Fri, 6 Nov 98 12:49:21 PST Received: by taliesin.sybase.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4/SybEC3.5) id AA10700; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:49:03 -0800 From: leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) Message-Id: <9811062049.AA10700@taliesin.sybase.com> Subject: Re: Yum yum! To: leighann@netcom.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 14:21:07 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text X-Lines: 62 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Sender: leighann@sybase.com Status: RO > Good grief, my dear, did somebody pee in your Wheaties this morning? > Ow! Sorry. I re-read what I'd said, and I went way overboard. Besides, New Orleans is a valid culinary classification, and IS Cajun/Creole, and my favorite Cajun cookbook (from whence comes the wetLeather beignet) is exactly that. My grapes were too sour, no wonder you were peeved. My deepest apologies. > Sausages and seasoning meats > (Andouille, Boudin, Chaurise, Tasso, pickled pork), etc etc. and now my grapes are REALLY sour, because I'd _kill_ for a recipe for tasso. In all my Louisiana cookbooks, tasso is an ingredient, with the unstated assumption that real cooks live in civilized places where one can buy that. (If you were to pull the recipe off the web and send it to me, I could work on my tofu-tasso, and then I'd owe you a vegetarian jambalaya.) I promised you my recipe for Ultimate Hushpuppies: 2 C Aunt Jemima white cornmeal (others cornmeals are neither Authentic nor Ultimate, (but see note3, below)) 3 T baking powder 1 t salt 1 t granulated garlic 2 t granulated onion or 1/2 small onion grated fine (see note2) 1 finely chopped jalapeno 1 (15 oz) can creamed corn oil for deep frying If too thick or too dry, add 1 egg. Drop by spoonsful into oil heated to 375 degrees, fry until light brown and cooked through. Note1: For faster production, put the hushpuppy dough into a pastry bag with about a 3/4 inch nozzle, squeeze continuous rolls of hushpuppy onto a cutting board, slice into 3/4 to 1 inch lengths with a wetted knife, and roll directly off the cutting board into the hot oil. CAREFUL that'll BURN. Note2: Fresh onion makes a better hushpuppy, granulated onion makes a milder hushpuppy for those who don't care for onions. Note3: To make hushYuppies, substitute expensive stone ground blue corn meal. I've gotta go, they're throwing us out and closing the building at 3:00. Regards, and happy New Year, Martin Martin Golding | If there were a God, DoD #236 | cocoa butter would be monounsaturated. martin@plaza.ds.adp.com Portland, OR From wetleather@onpmomma.isc-br.com Wed Sep 13 11:07:00 1995 Received: from onpmomma.isc-br.com (onpmomma.isc-br.com [129.189.2.118]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA04205 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:06:58 -0700 Received: from onpmomma by onpmomma.isc-br.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0sswCr-002odEa; Wed, 13 Sep 95 11:06 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 11:06 PDT Message-Id: Errors-To: carlp@onpmomma.isc-br.com Reply-To: wetleather@onpmomma.isc-br.com Originator: wetleather@mom.isc-br.com Sender: wetleather@onpmomma.isc-br.com Precedence: bulk From: Rolland@Resonant.com (Rolland Waters) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Navajo Fry Bread X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0b -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Greater Pacific Northwest Bikers' Social Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rolland@198.252.219.25 Status: RO Somebody asked a while back about recipes for Navajo Fry Bread. Here's the one I had -- it's from Volkswagen World, if you can believe that. Their recipe: 1 cup flour 1 teaspoon salt 1 tablespoon powdered milk 1 teaspoon baking powder 1/2 cup warm water oil for deep frying Sift dry ingredients, add the water. Stir with a fork till gathered into a mass. With floured hands, pat lightly in the bowl till it is coated with flour and sticky inside. Heat one inch oil to 350. Cut dough in four pieces. With heavily floured hands, turn and pat each til 1/4" thick and six to seven inches across. Deep-fry, turning only once till gold and puffy. Drain and serve at once. My modifications and notes: I use milk rather than the water/powdered milk. I haven't made it in a while, I might have used a little less milk (which would have been 1% or 2%) and hot water to get the temperature up. I know I used less salt, probably only 1/4 teaspoon. I also fried it in only about 1/2" oil, which worked fine. It's best when really hot, especially with butter and honey. From wetleather@onpmomma.isc-br.com Mon Dec 11 18:01:54 1995 Received: from onpmomma.isc-br.com (onpmomma.isc-br.com [129.189.2.118]) by shellx.best.com (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA01203 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 18:01:52 GMT Received: from onpmomma by onpmomma.isc-br.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0tPCVQ-001tV8a; Mon, 11 Dec 95 09:59 PST Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 09:59 PST Message-Id: <9512111752.AA65884@maix> Errors-To: carlp@onpmomma.isc-br.com Reply-To: wetleather@onpmomma.isc-br.com Originator: wetleather@mom.isc-br.com Sender: wetleather@onpmomma.isc-br.com Precedence: bulk From: martin@plaza.ds.adp.com To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: WETLEATHER digest 2361 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0b -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Greater Pacific Northwest Bikers' Social Mailing List Content-Type: text Status: RO > >>>>>> "Carl" == Carl Paukstis writes: > >Carl> OK, you bread-maker experts: Rhonda wants one for Christmas. Somebody named "flash" (New around here? Welcome aboard.) said: > personally, i find that a kitchen aide mixer does most of the work a bread > machine does a lot better. Having and using both, I am qualified to speak on this issue. (I would anyway, of course.) Our bread machine does two things the Kitchenaid can't: It makes bread when we're not there, and it crushes whole garlic. The first is obvious. If one has a fairly busy or unpredictable life, being able to throw everything together for five minutes and go away, and have fresh baked bread on schedule, is wonderful. It's so convenient. We used to make bread with the mixer three or four times a year, we use the bread machine three or four times a week. We don't breakfast, so the ability to wake up to fresh baked bread is wasted on us, but normal people who do eat breakfast and don't get up two hours before it are likely to appreciate the feature. The second is more subtle. Neither the Kitchenaid nor hand kneading are as efficient at incorporating arbitrary ingredients. Our Hitachi will blend whole cloves of garlic neatly into a loaf of bread; the alternative is a huge, heavy, hard to clean mortar and pestle. Which indicates at least one needed feature, which I think they nearly all the machines have- if you want nut or raisin bread, you _must_ have the "add ingredients" option (the breadmaker beeps at the last possible minute to let you know when to add stuff, so your raisins don't get pulped or your nuts powdered). There's another subtle effect for us, at least, in using the bread machine. Yesterday, I made "stuffing bread": basic bread using part wheat flour, plus sage, garlic, fresh ground black pepper, dried celery, and dried onion. I didn't think of using turkey broth as the liquid, I'll do that next time. There's almost no personal investment in time or energy, so one is free to take risks one might not if one were doing it the old fashioned way. Anybody want a recipe for Greek-style boned quail on garlic pancakes? Ride conservatively, eat with abandon, Martin Martin Golding | Real Men make hollandaise DoD #236 | over medium heat. martin@plaza.ds.adp.com Portland, OR From wetleather@onpmomma.isc-br.com Tue Dec 12 20:07:37 1995 Received: from onpmomma.isc-br.com (onpmomma.isc-br.com [129.189.2.118]) by shellx.best.com (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA11088 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:07:36 GMT Received: from onpmomma by onpmomma.isc-br.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0tPayi-001tTKa; Tue, 12 Dec 95 12:07 PST Date: Tue, 12 Dec 95 12:07 PST Message-Id: <9512121951.AA96242@maix> Errors-To: carlp@onpmomma.isc-br.com Reply-To: wetleather@onpmomma.isc-br.com Originator: wetleather@mom.isc-br.com Sender: wetleather@onpmomma.isc-br.com Precedence: bulk From: martin@plaza.ds.adp.com To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: WETLEATHER digest 2361 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0b -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Greater Pacific Northwest Bikers' Social Mailing List Content-Type: text Status: RO I said: > | Yesterday, I made "stuffing bread": basic bread using part wheat flour, > | plus sage, garlic, fresh ground black pepper, dried celery, and dried > | onion. Dave Hastings (closet cook) asked: > That sounds wonderful. I don't suppose you'd care to share the recipe with > those of us who still make bread by hand? Please. Pretty please. Since the bread machine does most of the work, we don't have to be at all careful, so it was mostly "THIS is about right." But estimating ..thismuch.. (a half palmful) as a tablespoon, and a THISMUCH (a handful) as 1/4 C, To the dry ingredients for your usual wheat bread, assuming 3 cups flour: 1 T rubbed sage (fresh would be better, but I'm a lazy bum and it was COLD outside) 1 t coarse ground black pepper 2 cloves garlic, pounded to a pulp or chopped very fine 1/8 C dried celery 1/4 C dried onion, lightly crushed by hand 1/4 C dried cranberries (lightly sweetened) It may take an extra ounce or so of water to compensate for that sucked up by the dried stuff. If you make bread by hand you know what dough should feel like. If you can't find dried celery (we order ours from Pendery's), fresh may work. You can omit the dried cranberries, but they add a nice counterpoint to the spicy sage flavor. I think it'd be worth substituting turkey stock for the liquid, but I'm _particularly_ weird. > Although I > have to admit that my last couple of attempts failed, apparently due to lack > of a yeast colony. Have to be more careful of water temperatature next > time. If you got the cookbook, you have the Official Wetleather Recipe for Lump. Other amateurish attempts need not apply. > "Non-food items eaten by members will be considered food items for > purposes of reimbursement calculation..." Precisely, Martin Martin Golding | Real Men make hollandaise DoD #236 | over medium heat. martin@plaza.ds.adp.com Portland, OR From martin@plaza.ds.adp.com Mon Jan 8 11:46:36 1996 Received: from plaza.ds.adp.com (lockbox.plaza.ds.adp.com [139.126.34.128]) by shellx.best.com (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA28483 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:46:32 -0800 From: martin@plaza.ds.adp.com Received: from myst.plaza.ds.adp.com by plaza.ds.adp.com (4.1/3.1.012693-Automatic Data Processing Dealer Services); id AA14312 for leighann@best.com; Mon, 8 Jan 96 11:45:08 PST Received: from maix (maix.plaza.ds.adp.com [139.126.60.170]) by myst.plaza.ds.adp.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA08427 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:46:13 -0800 Received: by maix (Automatic Data Processing Dealer Services/1.1) id AA94562; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:46:21 -0800 Message-Id: <9601081946.AA94562@maix> Subject: Re: Vile Substances To: leighann@best.com Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:46:20 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1694 Status: RO > Martin say: > > (anybody need a recipe for retsina pancakes?). > Oo, me, me! Begin with your favorite pancake recipe (we've used a commercial mix and my Sainted Mother's MIX, which is sort of home-made Bisquik except it uses domestic baking powder so it doesn't make my teeth itch). Omit any sugar. For each cup of flour, substitute 1/4 cup retsina for whatever liquid is recommended. Use a dry white wine for the rest of the liquid (it occurs to me that a chile mead would make devastating pancakes). Make pancakes in the usual way. To serve: Marinate a loin of venison in red wine, vast quantities of garlic, and some aromatic vegetables. Drain, put the vegetables in an oiled roasting pan, oil the roast, and roast the loin at high heat (450) until it reaches an internal temp. of 140F. Set the loin aside. Deglaze the roasting pan with the wine, simmer to reduce by half, strain, add a couple of teaspoons of mordant mustard. Flame, if wished, with a bit of strong brandy. Slice the venison thinish, array beautifully over the pancakes, drench with the sauce, and serve. We've decided that retsina can be used anywhere rosemary or juniper (both strong pine flavors) are customary. If you leave out the sugar and leave off the syrup, a pancake is just a limp croustade. Add wine to adjust thickness, eggs to adjust crepiness. We've looked unsuccessfully for other recipes using retsina, and suspect that we published the first. Perhaps not a thing to be proud of ;-) Ride nice old motorcycles, eat weird new foods, Martin Martin Golding | Real Men make hollandaise DoD #236 | over medium heat. martin@plaza.ds.adp.com Portland, OR From wetladies@micapeak.com Mon May 19 09:23:37 1997 Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (root@proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.13]) by shell9.ba.best.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13152; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from express.ior.com (express.ior.com [199.79.239.13]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA08403; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from express.ior.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by express.ior.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29198; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:19:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:19:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199705191609.JAA18605@sequent.sequent.com> Errors-To: wetladies-owner@micapeak.com Reply-To: wetladies@micapeak.com Originator: wetladies@micapeak.com Sender: wetladies@micapeak.com Precedence: bulk From: Shannon Kelley To: WetLadies Chocolate & Mischief Society Subject: Eeeekkkkk! Hold off on the Oatmeal bread!!! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0 -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: WetLadies Chocolate & Mischief Society Status: RO That's what I get for posting from memory. Major screw-up if any of you tried it this weekend. I'm sorry. Will complete appropriate penance. >:-) The butter should be 2 tbsp, not 1/2 cup. Minor difference. :-( Also, I reduce the salt to 2 tsp. Gary's mom used 1 tbsp. Here is the complete recipe from Gary's Mom: Oatmeal Bread Combine in large mixer bowl: 1 cup oats 1/2 cup brown sugar 1/2 cup whole wheat or white flour 2 tbsp butter, cut in pieces 1 tbsp salt Pour 2 cups boiling water. Let stand until 100-110 degrees. Soften 1 pkg (2.25 tsp) yeast in 1/2 cup warm (100-110 degree) water Add to cooled mixture. Gradually stir in 5 cups white flour. Should take 3-5 minutes to make a smooth, batter-style dough. Place in greased bowl, turning once. Put in warm spot. The top of the hot water heater is ideal! Let rise 1.5-2 hours, until double. Turn dough out on lightly floured board. Divide in two. Gently shape into loaves, place in greased loaf pans, cover and let rise til double. 1-1.5 hours. If desired, gently brush tops with milk and sprinkle lightly with oats. Preheat oven to 350. Bake 35 minutes. Notes: I decrease (but don't eliminate!) the salt. Also, I've never used wheat flour for this bread. Makes _outstanding_ toast the next day! Yum! I usually tuck one loaf pan into the 'fridge prior to the second rising. It will keep pretty well for 3-4 days. Allow about 3 hours for the second rising with the chilled dough. It doesn't rise as high, and the texture isn't as nice, but you get fresh hot bread twice in one week with little extra effort! ;-)